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  First post venting

  by Freethinking76 in

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  hello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !

  i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..

  my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  Sounds like you have a good spouse. The more you are away from the toxic JW environment, the better you will feel.
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  Unintended fallout from July 15 WT on "Anointed & Generation"?

  by prologos in

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  2. beliefs

  jesus, as reported in math 24:34 said: "--this generation --will by no means pass away until all these things occur.".

  the 'all' in the jesus quotation above would include the biggest all of them all,.

  allmageddon?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  So if the GB would hurry up and die, this whole armageddon thing would finally happen?
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  Introducing Myself

  by DilloTrace in

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  i'm new to this forum and wanted to give everyone a shout out.

  i've been a silent observer of this forum for a long time, but now i feel it's time for me to break the silence and get involved.

  i've been inactive since november of last year.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Sorry but we've already exceeded our quota of new members. Please come back next week.

  ....Just kidding...

  WELCOME DT! Always room for another!
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  exJW Psychology 101--Keeping Your Cool While Fading

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, i'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.. .

  personally, i don't have much of a temper.

  what i do have, i've learned to control.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  After reading and thinking about Laika's situation, I thought I'd add another thought.

  A common expression in our family, which I think I've used here before is:

  "A man convinced against his will,
  is of the same opinion still."

  I've not made it a priority to get my parents completely out of the organization and joining another church or becoming atheist. They're elderly and that would be a huge, traumatic event for them. From the start, I needed first to be understood. Second, I needed to be respected. Neither would be particularly easy, given the programmed JW mentality, but with time and patience, things have developed.

  I knew it would be pointless to come to them with a huge list of doctrinal errors of the organization. Instead, as I've blathered on about in Psych 102, I pointed out that there are questions the organization hasn't answered, but need to. All I wanted to do was get them to understand, and realize that it wasn't their place to try to justify or speculate on answers beyond what WT has printed. Some other things were discussed, but I could tell that they weren't allowing themselves to understand certain things. It was turning into an "argument" with nobody being convinced of anything, so I gave up trying to convince them of many doctrinal points. I found two things they understood clearly. These were that WT policies on education and handling cases of child molestation are wrong. They came to understand and respect the fact that these things were something I couldn't tolerate. In return, I understood and respected the fact that they would never follow or enforce such policies.

  Perhaps two other things also worth mentioning are that at some moment in our conversation, they stated, "well, the brothers are imperfect, there will be some mistakes." I was waiting for those words and it was my green light to repeat them, "yes, I know very well that they are imperfect, and I cannot pretend that they are perfect." And later repeated them again, "well, the brothers are imperfect, there will be some mistakes. So there's no point in arguing about what is printed in the Watchtower, because it could easily be another mistake and be completely changed in an upcoming article." Ironically, I used that line when the subject of the FDS came up a year ago. Serendipitously, that very subject was revised at the Annual Meeting a few months later.

  Of course, it's not an ideal situation where they have learned TTATT and come out of the bOrg. But at least I feel that I'm understood and respected, and we still have a relationship, and I am happy for that.
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  DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ

  by under_believer in

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  the more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.

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  good times over here in day 2. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Also the apostate's main goal is to achieve prominence and attention."

  Since my main goal is to expose the lies of Watchtower without revealing my identity, I'm not an apostate.
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  DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.

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  good times over here in day 2. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders."

  I suppose they had to change from the previous metaphor likening apostate information to spiritual pornography. Use of the word "porn" just made the sheeple curious to check out us hot, naked, apostates.
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  Internship

  by Defianttruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hired three summer interns this year.

  all three are senior level engineering students from my alma mater.

  i had one working on a project with me and i asked him to replace a bolt on a machine we are building.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  DT, I'll send a PM.
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  Internship

  by Defianttruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hired three summer interns this year.

  all three are senior level engineering students from my alma mater.

  i had one working on a project with me and i asked him to replace a bolt on a machine we are building.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  All I can think to say is, "yikes!"

  And since you brought up the subject of internships, I gotta say that I was bummed that I didn't get an internship this summer. There were only a few that fit my situation. My interviews for those positions went very well, I thought. I was able to carry on technical discussions because of my work history besides the schooling. Yet the internships went to students that had no real work history and would have been clueless about the technical details discussed in my interview. And I was totally shocked with one internship. It was supposedly to train for a position opening after we graduate. I was seriously interested in the company, yet they chose a girl that admitted to me that she had no real interest in working for the company. She just wanted anything to put on her resume as a job. The only thing I can think of is that they weren't planning to pay much for these positions.

  I've been trying to look on the bright side. Things have been going well for me this summer, but the whole internship thing was such a dark cloud that I haven't been able to shake. Your story has given me a laugh and I don't feel so bad about myself. I learned all about fetching the right size bolts when I was a little kid growing up on the farm.

  And you can be glad he's just an intern and not a full-time committed employee.
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  Hello and my exit story from WTS

  by free2Bme13 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought it was fitting for me to share my freedom from the witnesses story on independence day weekend.. i dont have any secret info, just experiences that happened to me and started to open my eyes.. i was a third generation, raised in the truth kid who was never supposed to be born, and then never supposed to graduate high school.

  ive now been out of high school longer than i was in school.. the beginning of the end started a little less than a decade ago.

  i was late 20s at the time.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  Thanks for sharing your story and have a great Independence Weekend!
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  What do you make of this? Got slapped with a shunning after...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all, here's an interesting fb exchange i had yesterday.

  names have been changed.

  i'll give a brief dramatis personae and then see what you jwners think of this.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  She never did address the question of why Watchtower BIBLE and Tract Society has no BIBLES anymore.